John vs Phoenix
John and Phoenixcompared on official birth-registration statistics and Namewise's recorded data. This page states what each name's record shows — it never picks a winner or scores one name against the other.
Head to head
Ranks are only compared within one published list and one year. Two ranks from different years, from a boys' and a girls' list, or from different registrars are not comparable, so they are not placed side by side.
Republic of Ireland · Boys
In 2025, John was ranked #29 and Phoenix #577 among boys in Republic of Ireland.
New Zealand · Boys
In 2019, John was ranked #60 and Phoenix #94 among boys in New Zealand.
Northern Ireland · Boys
In 2024, John was ranked #67 and Phoenix #404 among boys in Northern Ireland.
Scotland · Boys
In 2024, John was ranked #78 and Phoenix #432 among boys in Scotland.
New South Wales, Australia · Boys
In 2017, John was ranked #83 and Phoenix #100 among boys in New South Wales, Australia.
England and Wales · Boys
In 2024, John was ranked #164 and Phoenix #231 among boys in England and Wales.
John and Phoenix over time
John and Phoenix appear together in 4 published lists, across 73 years of shared records. John held the stronger position in more years in 4 of them, Phoenix in 0.
In none of those lists did their order change and stay changed.
John reached its own highest recorded position earlier in 3 of those lists, Phoenix in 1. Each position is a place inside its own list, so this compares when they peaked and never how high.
Counted list by list. Two names in the same published list are measured on the same scale in the same year, so those comparisons are real — but positions from different lists are not, so nothing here is combined into an overall standing.
How this pair is related
The relationship kinds these two qualify for, each under its own stated rule. Every one is drawn from a list they both appear in.
- Peaked in the same years
Both reached their highest recorded position in Northern Ireland · Boys within 2 years — John #32 in 2017, Phoenix #253 in 2016.
List by list
England and Wales · Boys29 shared years, 1996–2024
John held the stronger position in 29 of those years, Phoenix in 0.
Highest recorded here: John #46 in 1996, Phoenix #164 in 2020.
The order between them never changed and held in this list.
Most recent shared year, 2024: John #164, Phoenix #231.
Republic of Ireland · Boys17 shared years, 2006–2025
John held the stronger position in 17 of those years, Phoenix in 0.
Highest recorded here: John #18 in 2006, Phoenix #232 in 2021.
The order between them never changed and held in this list.
Most recent shared year, 2025: John #29, Phoenix #577.
New Zealand · Boys16 shared years, 2004–2019
John held the stronger position in 16 of those years, Phoenix in 0.
Highest recorded here: John #46 in 2004, Phoenix #57 in 2012.
The order between them never changed and held in this list.
Most recent shared year, 2019: John #60, Phoenix #94.
Northern Ireland · Boys11 shared years, 2010–2024
John held the stronger position in 11 of those years, Phoenix in 0.
Highest recorded here: John #32 in 2017, Phoenix #253 in 2016.
The order between them never changed and held in this list.
Most recent shared year, 2024: John #67, Phoenix #404.
Two names moving past each other in a ranking is a fact about the ranking. Namewise does not claim one name displaced the other, that families chose between them, or that either influenced the other — none of that is in this data.
Side by side
| Field | John | Phoenix |
|---|---|---|
| Record type | Editorially researched profile | Official statistical record (evidence-only) |
| Gender usage | male | Used for both boys and girls |
| Meaning | From Hebrew Yochanan, 'Yahweh is gracious', via Greek Ioannes and Latin Iohannes. One of the most widespread names in Christian Europe, associated with both John the Baptist and the apostle John. | Not yet recorded |
| Origin | Biblical Hebrew | Not yet recorded |
| Pronunciation | /ˈjɔn/ | Not yet recorded |
| Syllables | 1 | 2 |
| Common variants / nicknames | Not yet recorded | Not yet recorded |
| Recorded regional usage | AU-NSW, GB-ENW, GB-NIR, GB-SCT, IE, NO, NZ | AU-NSW, GB-ENW, GB-NIR, GB-SCT, IE, NZ |
| Most recent popularity observation | Republic of Ireland · Boys #29 (2025) | Republic of Ireland · Boys #577 (2025) |
| Pronunciation clarity (demonstration score) | 90/100 | Not yet recorded |
| Spelling simplicity (demonstration score) | 95/100 | 82/100 |
| International familiarity (demonstration score) | 100/100 | 100/100 |
| Data Confidence | medium | medium |
What the data shows
- John has a recorded origin (Biblical Hebrew); Phoenix does not have one recorded yet.
- John has 1 syllable, compared with 2 for Phoenix.
- A meaning is recorded for John; Phoenix doesn't have one written yet.
- Both names have recorded usage in AU-NSW, GB-ENW, GB-NIR, GB-SCT, IE, NZ.
How each name got here
John
Popularity journey
First recorded1945
First recorded at #20 among boys in Norway in 1945 — the earliest year that source publishes this name, not necessarily the earliest it was used.
Norway · Boys
Highest recorded1952–2019
Highest recorded position: #1 among boys in New South Wales, Australia, in 1952 (recorded 1952–2019).
New South Wales, Australia · Boys
Most recent2025
Most recently recorded at #161 among boys in Norway, in 2025.
Norway · Boys
Phoenix
Popularity journey
First recorded1996
First recorded at #1646 among girls in England and Wales in 1996 — the earliest year that source publishes this name, not necessarily the earliest it was used.
England and Wales · Girls
Highest recorded2004–2019
Highest recorded position: #57 among boys in New Zealand, in 2012 (recorded 2004–2019).
New Zealand · Boys
Most recent2025
Most recently recorded at #577 among boys in Republic of Ireland, in 2025.
Republic of Ireland · Boys